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i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> mark mckinnon -- i love him. mike, we love him. we love him! has anybody not told him, they've been in the white house for the past four years? buried? the middle class has been buried over the past four years. >> joe, i am being deadly earnest now, man. deadly earnest. okay? on how anybody -- how anybody can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i'm not trying to bury him. i got a good laugh out of it. mark mckinnon, you think we may hear the middle cl
i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class...
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in is how you have to debate mitt romney. we just weren't going to make the same mistake we did in the first debate, is what team obama said. john mccain said it in the segment before, when you hear the phrase, well, he did what he had to do, that is code for, he didn't win the debate. but we don't think we got blown out, right? that that is what they're trying to say. look, i think it's actually risky when you play that risk -- it's risky to be risk-averse. especially when you're on a subject matter that isn't your strong suit and last night it came across at times it wasn't your strong suit. >> no doubt. he seemed to be on the defensive. he seemed to be uncomfortable, david gregory. they switched over to dough necessa -- domestic policy and mitt romney became the domestic policy of denver. why would some say mitt romney is up in the national polls, up in ohio. why de feel the need to attack mitt romney on every single question? was that personal or was that political? >> i think it's political to this extent, joe. i think h
in is how you have to debate mitt romney. we just weren't going to make the same mistake we did in the first debate, is what team obama said. john mccain said it in the segment before, when you hear the phrase, well, he did what he had to do, that is code for, he didn't win the debate. but we don't think we got blown out, right? that that is what they're trying to say. look, i think it's actually risky when you play that risk -- it's risky to be risk-averse. especially when you're on a subject...
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governor romney dominated the debates, almost all the debates. people said, well, they weren't one-on-one. mostly they were. in the debates that mattered. he was one-on-one with rick perry and one-on-one with santorum. and the moderators treated it that way. he is underrated. his performance skills is underrated hen he has time to prepare. we'll see what happens in the next few weeks. the president will be under pressure. >> what now? what does the romney campaign do with this? >> i have a list of sort of what now questions up on the page. let's see how big the crowds are. let's see if the press has a bit of a a love affair with him. let's see if he can take the skills and the level of performance he had and translate it to interview and add on the stump. let's see if democrats start to panic. and let's see if chicago decides in the next 24 or 48 hours to say we need to turn the page with something new. another video or some other thing. but personal and performance matters. if governor romney can sustain his performance the president faces a lot
governor romney dominated the debates, almost all the debates. people said, well, they weren't one-on-one. mostly they were. in the debates that mattered. he was one-on-one with rick perry and one-on-one with santorum. and the moderators treated it that way. he is underrated. his performance skills is underrated hen he has time to prepare. we'll see what happens in the next few weeks. the president will be under pressure. >> what now? what does the romney campaign do with this? >> i...
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can he do the third debate for mitt romney? you listen to this and there are so many great points to be made. bobby jindal made them. >> let's have all of those people that are are now covered dropped. that's a good idea. >> the current system doesn't work. you've got to help people, especially with pre-existing conditions. you can do that for people with continuous coverage, they shouldn't face discrimination. they should be able to move plan to plan. a lot of times people can't move jobs because they can't afford to be without their insurance. people buying insurance with pre-existing conditions, there should be resources, whether it's re-insurance, tax credits. i don't think anyone is arguing for the status quo but putting 16 million people more on medicaid is not the answer. it's now $1.7 trillion, over $500 billion in tax increases and over $700 billion in medicare cuts that rick foster says aren't sustainable, aren't -- >> and a conservative as well came up with the concept. you guys are so -- you have a way of -- you're
can he do the third debate for mitt romney? you listen to this and there are so many great points to be made. bobby jindal made them. >> let's have all of those people that are are now covered dropped. that's a good idea. >> the current system doesn't work. you've got to help people, especially with pre-existing conditions. you can do that for people with continuous coverage, they shouldn't face discrimination. they should be able to move plan to plan. a lot of times people can't...
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you knew mitt romney had to have a good debate. what were you guys thinking as you saw this thing unwind and saw that the president not only didn't bring his "a" game, he just didn't show up, and mitt was on top of his game. what were you thinking? >> as we were watching it, we were thinking we were at the right place at the right time. you think of all the debate preparation. there's a lot of work and staff's very involved. at the end of the day, it's his ball. mitt romney gets on that stage. he's throwing the ball. and the only thing he can control is him, what he does, what he says, what comes out of his mouth. >> doesn't matter how much you prep him, it's up to him. >> and it doesn't matter what the moderator does. it doesn't matter what the president does. the one thing that's in his control is the case he makes. and it's the first time that there was -- you know, you think about the way people portrayed mitt romney over the past few months as though he's some sort of monster. and suddenly we got to see the guy that we know. t
you knew mitt romney had to have a good debate. what were you guys thinking as you saw this thing unwind and saw that the president not only didn't bring his "a" game, he just didn't show up, and mitt was on top of his game. what were you thinking? >> as we were watching it, we were thinking we were at the right place at the right time. you think of all the debate preparation. there's a lot of work and staff's very involved. at the end of the day, it's his ball. mitt romney gets...
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it be the truth tha mitt romney won the debate no. thank you hatred is coming from the left and there's some pressure there because obama has to and deliver. >> we talk about the numbers and approximate polls all stay every day, maybe too much. to them the president election is a narrative, it's something they talk about, occasionally, not all the time the way we do, but the narrative, the story is what drives the voters, and the narrative this week and will continue into next week is can the president recover, can we come back and be president on the stage with the contender, mitt romney. if he goes down again the way he did in last week's debate. that narrative, a lot of people are going to be thinking maybe he's just not into the job. >> we should also say people one week ago today were saying debates don't matter, that argument has been put to rest. so we can now say that the detectiv second debate really matters too. >> there's so much historical data saying that sometimes debates don't matter and in many cases they don't. even w
it be the truth tha mitt romney won the debate no. thank you hatred is coming from the left and there's some pressure there because obama has to and deliver. >> we talk about the numbers and approximate polls all stay every day, maybe too much. to them the president election is a narrative, it's something they talk about, occasionally, not all the time the way we do, but the narrative, the story is what drives the voters, and the narrative this week and will continue into next week is can...
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which mitt romney is the one that shows up to the next debate? which is the one that shows up the day after the election? and that's where the president has to take this conversation. is it the mitt romney on foreign policy who said when iran captured that drone it was a reason to go to war? or is it the much more moderated guy who said let's just carry on doing what we're doing. iran could hardly have any type of sanctions. the economy is in freefall right now. what can you get your arms around with this candidate? makes him a very difficult debate opponent. but in that moment, in that debate when he's pivoting and flip-flopping and all over the place, you've got to confront him, otherwise you are not stepping up -- >> the problem is, let's just say with barack obama isn't the problem he's not a great debater and he's not nimble on his feet. because you are a lot of other people could stand across the stage from mitt romney and say that. >> it's easy to do it from the sides. sidelines. >> the president is not a good debater. >> there was a momen
which mitt romney is the one that shows up to the next debate? which is the one that shows up the day after the election? and that's where the president has to take this conversation. is it the mitt romney on foreign policy who said when iran captured that drone it was a reason to go to war? or is it the much more moderated guy who said let's just carry on doing what we're doing. iran could hardly have any type of sanctions. the economy is in freefall right now. what can you get your arms...
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but i think santorum's long dissection of romney care and drawing romney into that debate where romney had to explain went back three or four times how it was different than president obama's affordable care act. >> right. >> and it didn't sound different from president obama -- i think that's an argument that the white house liked hearing and something you'll hear again. if romney makes it through the general election. but i think one way he might have helped romney was with a bite we played there where santorum said can we drop all this nonsense? can we drop the nonsense? he was rich, he was successful. i think to republican voters, that's going to ring with them. >> but the headline of this, mike, if we're going to grade these the way that harvard's mark haleprin grades it with a great inflation, you always give the students at the front of the class from the richest families -- >> right. >> the ones you know are going to win in life anyway, you always give them the highest grade, that's how haleprin does it. so the practical effect of this is that romney won the night. because chan
but i think santorum's long dissection of romney care and drawing romney into that debate where romney had to explain went back three or four times how it was different than president obama's affordable care act. >> right. >> and it didn't sound different from president obama -- i think that's an argument that the white house liked hearing and something you'll hear again. if romney makes it through the general election. but i think one way he might have helped romney was with a bite...
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it played into romney's hand. it was a romney-style debate. there was little emotion to it it was sterile almost in its presentation. newt played to that as well. he just, as chuck said, he kept it down-key and he didn't get excited. because he didn't want to be drawn into that debate. but it got to a point after 30 minutes where enough was enough. and they had to move on. because it just was not opening any new ground. it was a rehash of old stories about bain and freddie mac and fannie mae. and you could feel it almost palpable in the audience, the frustration with the way things were going. >> john heilemann? >> i'll ask both of you guys in sequence, chuck first and michael. on the question of romney's taxes. the third straight debate where he's had the question. he's had a lot of time to prep, he didn't do well last night. do you think he did better last night? and how do you think the story is going to play out today? >> no, not when you see what was coming. here he had an opportunity to sort of set the stage for what was coming. and i th
it played into romney's hand. it was a romney-style debate. there was little emotion to it it was sterile almost in its presentation. newt played to that as well. he just, as chuck said, he kept it down-key and he didn't get excited. because he didn't want to be drawn into that debate. but it got to a point after 30 minutes where enough was enough. and they had to move on. because it just was not opening any new ground. it was a rehash of old stories about bain and freddie mac and fannie mae....
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that you couldn't vote for mitt romney and romney was going to have a control egg that first debate had such a big impact on making romney seem like an acceptable choice and it also now has changed the balance in the electoral college. if governor romney is able to went three southern states and the nine tossups, florida, virginia, north carolina and ohio, he is not favored in ohio but now a position to win ohio, you look that the map, all of that red, that gets him to 266. if he can take ohio. and i talked to two democrats yesterday who now think it is possible that a president's position in ohio will erode to such an extent he could lose it, 266 means all governor romney would need to do would win one of those five tossups in yellow and that's huge change. that map gives governor romney like the toral college advantage that the president has long enjoyed. >> be clear if you look at that map, not calling ohio right now for romney. >> not at all. >> just a scenario. >> i was struck yesterday how some democrats now believe what had been a clear advantage in ohio for a long time is now so
that you couldn't vote for mitt romney and romney was going to have a control egg that first debate had such a big impact on making romney seem like an acceptable choice and it also now has changed the balance in the electoral college. if governor romney is able to went three southern states and the nine tossups, florida, virginia, north carolina and ohio, he is not favored in ohio but now a position to win ohio, you look that the map, all of that red, that gets him to 266. if he can take ohio....
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because the first debate, obviously, a huge win for mitt romney. i think that still resonates with voters. i saw the second debate, and maybe republicans don't like me saying this. i thought mitt romney had it wrong, tonally as wrong as you could have it the first 20, 30 minutes. i thought he messed up the benghazi question, i'm not alone, krauthammer, laura inc. h ingram, others thought the same thing. the further i get away from it, i saw the focus groups on msnbc, it's almost like voters -- they weren't turned off by romney, and i'm wondering whether they're so hungry for a strong leader that they even liked him being intemperate by debate standards. >> i think it's pretty simple. this doesn't mean romney's going to win, but we said four months, as did the president's advisers, they can't win on the president's record. they must destroy and eliminate as a viable alternative the other guy. romney in the two debates, even in the second one, looked presentable, acceptable enough that he's in a position to win simply by being acceptable. >> john, do
because the first debate, obviously, a huge win for mitt romney. i think that still resonates with voters. i saw the second debate, and maybe republicans don't like me saying this. i thought mitt romney had it wrong, tonally as wrong as you could have it the first 20, 30 minutes. i thought he messed up the benghazi question, i'm not alone, krauthammer, laura inc. h ingram, others thought the same thing. the further i get away from it, i saw the focus groups on msnbc, it's almost like voters --...
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and i'm happy to have that debate with governor romney. and i will debate him one-on-one anywhere, any time that he's willing to stand up and explain his record without the kind of gimmicks he used in florida. >> all right. >> he was on "meet the press." >> he was. he also "face the nation." >> let's watch what he said on "meet the press." >> how personally nasty is it between you and governor romney? have you lost personal like and even respect for him? >> i think that's basically an irrelevant question. governor romney's running a campaign he thinks is right for him, i don't think it's a good thing to do. in south carolina we set an all-time record for turn out. i'm going to be running a campaign of big ideas, big solutions. i'm trying to draw people into politics, not carpet bomb them out of it. we just have a fundamental disagreement about the responsibility somebody running for president should have to the american people. >> and so -- let's talk about mitt romney, mark haleprin, who everybody keeps beating up and he deserves to be be
and i'm happy to have that debate with governor romney. and i will debate him one-on-one anywhere, any time that he's willing to stand up and explain his record without the kind of gimmicks he used in florida. >> all right. >> he was on "meet the press." >> he was. he also "face the nation." >> let's watch what he said on "meet the press." >> how personally nasty is it between you and governor romney? have you lost personal like and...
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debate on this issue. >> a great debate. >> on saturday night, mitt romney criticized his service in the obama administration. the next day, having 12 hours to figure out a great response, he hit romney twice in sequence. first by saying, you know, i did this country first invoking john mccain to make the point he was serving his country and not serving a democratic administration and came back and hit romney a second time saying this is the kind of attitude that divides our country and there's no good in it. it took them six months, the entirety of the huntsman campaign, waiting a moment to formulate that argument. he made that point very strongly -- >> made a good point. >> and in some ways christie attacking him yesterday on it allowed them to make the point again and feel good about it. >> and i -- we love chris christie, and i'm sure they were -- they told chris, get up here and be strong and hammer hard. but, mike barnicle, the romney team played right into jon huntsman team. i can't think of another state in the union where somebody could make the argument that jon huntsman ma
debate on this issue. >> a great debate. >> on saturday night, mitt romney criticized his service in the obama administration. the next day, having 12 hours to figure out a great response, he hit romney twice in sequence. first by saying, you know, i did this country first invoking john mccain to make the point he was serving his country and not serving a democratic administration and came back and hit romney a second time saying this is the kind of attitude that divides our country...
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since you've debated mitt romney what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. >> mr. speaker, if president obama is re-elected, as a historian and student and long-time strategist in the party is this more of a disaster for, and explain more by mitt romney being a bad candidate or will it say something about the weakness of the republican party? >> since we're going to keep the house seats and the senate and may end up with more governorships than 1921 i don't think it says much about the republican party. we have more legislative seats since 1925. we have more candidates of diversity. you look at susana martinez, nicki haley, a much bigger, broader party than the washington consultants understand. >> includes marco rubio. these aren't people on the margins. >> this is about a specific campaign with a specific set of problems, not about the broader republican party. if barack obama does win he faces an enormous decision the first three or four weeks after that election. is he going to govern like bill clinton or keep governin
since you've debated mitt romney what advice would you give to barack obama? >> call bill clinton every morning. >> mr. speaker, if president obama is re-elected, as a historian and student and long-time strategist in the party is this more of a disaster for, and explain more by mitt romney being a bad candidate or will it say something about the weakness of the republican party? >> since we're going to keep the house seats and the senate and may end up with more governorships...
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but the other story, obviously, is mitt romney, looking -- mitt romney has had a lot of great debate performances. last night was not one of them. >> i think it goes back to the question that you were trying to ask. and what ultimately does this do beyond show that -- >> nothing. >> moved the meter a little bit locally. let's look at what happened. newt gingrich and mitt romney squared off about the impact of super pac ads, and here's that, first. >> well senator santorum and i have complained about with governor romney's super pac, over which apparently he has no influence, which makes you wonder how much influence he would have if he were president. it is an absurdity and it would be nice if governor romney would exercise leadership on his former staff and his major donors to take falsehoods off the air. >> governor romney? >> so i can't do what you just asked me to do. but i can tell them publicly as i can here, if there's anything that's inaccurate in any ads that support me, i hope they take it off and don't run it. but if we're talking about super pac ads that are inaccurate, m
but the other story, obviously, is mitt romney, looking -- mitt romney has had a lot of great debate performances. last night was not one of them. >> i think it goes back to the question that you were trying to ask. and what ultimately does this do beyond show that -- >> nothing. >> moved the meter a little bit locally. let's look at what happened. newt gingrich and mitt romney squared off about the impact of super pac ads, and here's that, first. >> well senator...
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. >>> that debate, what happened? >> well, governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it's not the first time i've had a bad night, but i think what's important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. governor romney went to a lot of trouble to try to hide what his positions are because he knows that those ideas have been rejected. they won't work. and if he's making an honest presentation about what he's proposed, he will lose because the american people are not going to go back there. >> good morning. it's thursday, october 11th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have former mccain senior campaign strategist and msnbc political analyst steve schmidt. up bright and early this morning. looking good. >> you look beautiful. >> we also have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, i still like financier better. >> i'm going to say financier. >> steve ratner. >> wait a minute. am i not beautiful? >> you're gorgeous. >> like a rainbow, as cyndi lauper would say. >> what did w
. >>> that debate, what happened? >> well, governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it's not the first time i've had a bad night, but i think what's important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. governor romney went to a lot of trouble to try to hide what his positions are because he knows that those ideas have been rejected. they won't work. and if he's making an honest presentation about what he's...
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i believe i'm the one candidate who has the ability to debate barack obama decisively. >> mitt romney, rick santorum, and newt gingrich each putting their spin on how they did in last night's super tuesday races. the state everyone was watching, though, ohio. it spent a good part of the night in the too close to call, but at 12:30 eastern time this morning, called romney the apparent winner in a one-point close shave over santorum. we'll explain what that means. it remains the apparent category because ohio averages a 3% uncounted election night vote even when at 99% reporting. then just before 4:00 a.m. eastern time, nbc news declared romney the projected winner in alaska's republican caucus. romney also won big in the idaho caucuses. and he took massachusetts, vermont, and virginia. rick santorum countered last night with primary victories in oklahoma and tennessee. he also won the north dakota caucuses and newt gingrich also chalked up a win with 47% of the vote in his home state of georgia. the former house speaker is vowing to fight on with primaries next week in alabama and miss
i believe i'm the one candidate who has the ability to debate barack obama decisively. >> mitt romney, rick santorum, and newt gingrich each putting their spin on how they did in last night's super tuesday races. the state everyone was watching, though, ohio. it spent a good part of the night in the too close to call, but at 12:30 eastern time this morning, called romney the apparent winner in a one-point close shave over santorum. we'll explain what that means. it remains the apparent...
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they're setting aside spending a lot of time with mitt romney on debate prep. >> john kerry as mitt romney. i mean who would have ever seen that. >> what a stretch. >> what a stretch. who would have seen that coming up, considering everybody has called the republican party, called mitt romney the john kerry of 2012. >> oh, my god. >> makes the debate preparation easier. >> tvan hollen that's a good call. >> ryan sullivan takes us through sports. >> i am? >> yeah. >> you are now. >> you're hired. >> you've got a job. you've got to explain to us, what, mika? >> why this man is so angry. we'll be right back. ♪ don't our dogs deserve to eat fresher less processed foods introducing freshpet healthy recipes of fresh meat and fresh veggies so fresh the only preservative we use is the fridge freshpet fresh food for fido >>> all right. let's get to sports. now we have exciting news in baseball. both big and small. first off let's start with the dodgers. they were in pittsburgh trying to wrap up their series. there was action off the field as well. look at that, matt kemp, getting in the face of u
they're setting aside spending a lot of time with mitt romney on debate prep. >> john kerry as mitt romney. i mean who would have ever seen that. >> what a stretch. >> what a stretch. who would have seen that coming up, considering everybody has called the republican party, called mitt romney the john kerry of 2012. >> oh, my god. >> makes the debate preparation easier. >> tvan hollen that's a good call. >> ryan sullivan takes us through sports....
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the cover of this magazine was mitt romney debating an empty chair. i think it's possible to have politics in a magazine but also to see things clear and be tough-minded about power that's in power. and we have been about barack obama, whether it's on afghanistan, whether it's on finance, whether it's on predator drones. which is something that concerns you. which is why i'm surprised that you're so shocked that we would set the context for obama's presidency, which is you follow somebody. you have a set of problems. you have a set of disasters in this case. that you have to deal with. and financial deregulation, for example, we know did not begin under george bush. bill clinton was responsible for a lot of it. >> and i screwed up with the vote on that myself back in '99. i'm not shocked, mika. obviously, people tune into the show because they like debate. >> yeah. >> we've got great respect for david. i love "the new yorker." so people at home, just relax. everything's fine. we like each other very much. have great respect for each other. but this is
the cover of this magazine was mitt romney debating an empty chair. i think it's possible to have politics in a magazine but also to see things clear and be tough-minded about power that's in power. and we have been about barack obama, whether it's on afghanistan, whether it's on finance, whether it's on predator drones. which is something that concerns you. which is why i'm surprised that you're so shocked that we would set the context for obama's presidency, which is you follow somebody. you...
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personally i cannot wait for this weekend's debates in new hampshire because when mitt romney least expects it, newt gingrich is going to turn to him and say -- >> hello. my name is newt gingrich. you killed my campaign. prepare to die. >> oh, yes. is it time? >> it is time, pre-recorded mika brzezinski. time for news you can't use. we don't talk a lot about the show celebrity wife swap here at "morning joe." i'm told it's a show about swapping lives. >> great. >> it premiered this week with a mix of gary busey and infamous disgraced pastor ted haggard swapping wives. >> prepare for the best, prepare for the worst, and expect the unexpected. >> you know what's good about farting in the sink? >> cut -- >> and the white balls moving like this, those are angels. time for me to get bored. i'll find something i can do to keep me interested in something. >> i'm excited about your book. >> yeah. >> i want to read it. >> what do you do? do you go to church? >> i am a church. >> did i ask you what athletic sports you would play? >> you did. >> i remember that answer too. >> one of my recent lifetime
personally i cannot wait for this weekend's debates in new hampshire because when mitt romney least expects it, newt gingrich is going to turn to him and say -- >> hello. my name is newt gingrich. you killed my campaign. prepare to die. >> oh, yes. is it time? >> it is time, pre-recorded mika brzezinski. time for news you can't use. we don't talk a lot about the show celebrity wife swap here at "morning joe." i'm told it's a show about swapping lives. >> great....
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but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he said in his convention speech. he said, look, i'm not going to heal the world, not going to part the seas, i want to help you and your family. the message being maybe i'm not as charismatic, i'm not a superstar the way many of you feel about this man, but i'm a businessman and i want to save you from what's happening to this economy. doesn't he play it down the middle that way? >> that's always been the whole card he's had. but he's got to project the idea that he is competent, he is fluent in creating jobs and expanding the economy. and as the strategist, you know, tad, for al gore said that the tone he's got to take with obama is you should know by now that these policies aren't going to work. and i know better. >> john, what about the thesis, it's more than a thesis that if governor romney standing there with t
but yes, romney can do it, he was a smart guy, good in most of the debates for the republicans. on the other hand, obama's pretty smart too and there's not much expectation to think he's going to screw up. >> what about, john, playing to that dull incompetent thing? he said in his convention speech. he said, look, i'm not going to heal the world, not going to part the seas, i want to help you and your family. the message being maybe i'm not as charismatic, i'm not a superstar the way many...
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debate discussion on fema. i'm going to guess you were probably against what mitt said. >> yeah, i thought it was a stupid thing to say, joe. frankly, i suspect if you were to bring governor romney on the program right now and ask him about what he said. all of the responsibilities to the states, i think he'd say, well, of course i didn't mean that and that's what he always says when confronted with something dumb he said in the past. but there is a larger point about the sort of shell game in my opinion the romney/ryan budget plays, which is just to say take the federal government's unfunded liabilities and send them down to the states and go like that and say good luck and that's not a solution. and because people are going to expect the same services. it has to be a much more comprehensive solution to our budget woes. and i wish governor romney, frankly, i wish the campaign had dealt with that. but we are where we are. >> mike, what are the chances? >> yes, mike barnicle. >> when mitt romney's asked about fe
debate discussion on fema. i'm going to guess you were probably against what mitt said. >> yeah, i thought it was a stupid thing to say, joe. frankly, i suspect if you were to bring governor romney on the program right now and ask him about what he said. all of the responsibilities to the states, i think he'd say, well, of course i didn't mean that and that's what he always says when confronted with something dumb he said in the past. but there is a larger point about the sort of shell...
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this is mitt romney in a senate debate against the late ted kennedy. >> when there's anxiety, there's a willingness to listen to simple, easy answers and that's wrong. the us most importance to working families in massachusetts. >> mr. romney. >> sal, the answer to your question isa -- they appreciate what senator kennedy has done and they realize that the answers of the 1960s are not working anymore. >> it's interesting to look at the man, he was i think strikingly handsome then in a different way from now, he's a very formidable person physically. but the message was just the same as the one he wants to advance against president obama. president obama, they sympathize with them. but he says the real point is we need to do something different about our economy. that showed in our debate in massachusetts. he was able to say, the real point is, the real answer is, the debaters skill on getting back what you're talking got. >> mark halperin is with us with a question. >> both campaigns try to set expectations. forget the campaign spin, are they roughly even? do you think one of them goe
this is mitt romney in a senate debate against the late ted kennedy. >> when there's anxiety, there's a willingness to listen to simple, easy answers and that's wrong. the us most importance to working families in massachusetts. >> mr. romney. >> sal, the answer to your question isa -- they appreciate what senator kennedy has done and they realize that the answers of the 1960s are not working anymore. >> it's interesting to look at the man, he was i think strikingly...
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and then obama could just sit back and watch mitt romney debate himself. >> i think simpson bowles would be good for the country. but when it went up for the vote, it was defeated 382-38. i think that's part of president obama's argument. i walk out there, and it will get shut down. >> but if it the president is not behind it, that's going to happen. if the president goes and leads, we're talking about leadership of the president. >> governor rendell, jump in. >> willie, that point is -- the point that joe made, the president not being behind it, is so right. the legislature would never vote for something that they knew i wasn't supporting, because they didn't want to risk the vote, take a courageous stand, if they knew that i would be against it and they would be left hanging with the courageous stand. if the president said he was for simpson bowles, i believe you'd get enough democrats and republicans to pass it. >> so you think that democrats would suddenly vote for big cuts to medicare and medicate, and the republicans for big tax increases? >> not all of them, but enough to pass it,
and then obama could just sit back and watch mitt romney debate himself. >> i think simpson bowles would be good for the country. but when it went up for the vote, it was defeated 382-38. i think that's part of president obama's argument. i walk out there, and it will get shut down. >> but if it the president is not behind it, that's going to happen. if the president goes and leads, we're talking about leadership of the president. >> governor rendell, jump in. >> willie,...
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but again, have that debate. engage in that debate. mitt romney just hasn't seemed to be able to stay with it. in fact, joe, he hasn't seemed to be able to stay with any message consistently. and i think that's what's killg him rig now andhy 'sakouo swing voters. >> well, you know, a couple of weeks ago i wrote that it's hard to debate effectively when you're biting your tongue and swallowing your pride. and that's what's been going on. with romney. it reay -- you know, this a guy who has hado editimse very turn. and because of that, you know, he keeps on coming up with the most incredible bloopers, bloopers and gaffes that would have appalled his father. >> joe kno this as well as probly everybody at this table does. ezyngbohe individual mandate is that it is a conservative idea. it was an idea created at the heritage foundation as an alternative, as joe said, to hillary care back in the early 1990s. well, it would have been a really gutsy me on romney pa i wd- about the beginning of the primaries was to stand up and say, listen, ther
but again, have that debate. engage in that debate. mitt romney just hasn't seemed to be able to stay with it. in fact, joe, he hasn't seemed to be able to stay with any message consistently. and i think that's what's killg him rig now andhy 'sakouo swing voters. >> well, you know, a couple of weeks ago i wrote that it's hard to debate effectively when you're biting your tongue and swallowing your pride. and that's what's been going on. with romney. it reay -- you know, this a guy who has...
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the ryan budget, we're going to be debating mitt romney and president obama. >> andrea mitchell, your take? >> i think it is the most exciting choice he could have made. i didn't think he was ever going to go chris christie. it is first of all i remember a very smart guy saying that back in 1995 when he was a member of congress this was our conversation less than a week ago, that there was one staff guy in the room and it was paul ryan. because he knew everything. they would turn to ryan, joe you said, and he would know where to go, how to move, at a time that was revolutionary on the house republican side. so he is that smart. he has a more compassionate face. he reminds a lot of us of jack kemp, be worked with jack kemp, bill bennett. has that intellectual left. an extraordinary family and i've been doing reporting over the weekend on his biography, more so than i had even known, even though i know him, on jana ryan, an oklahoma democrat, cousins of the borins, oklahoma blue dog democrats, like republicans, fiscal conservatives and this is the choice she made. a lawyer from gw, work
the ryan budget, we're going to be debating mitt romney and president obama. >> andrea mitchell, your take? >> i think it is the most exciting choice he could have made. i didn't think he was ever going to go chris christie. it is first of all i remember a very smart guy saying that back in 1995 when he was a member of congress this was our conversation less than a week ago, that there was one staff guy in the room and it was paul ryan. because he knew everything. they would turn to...
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romney will take up this point at the debate six days from now. steve, let's inside these numbers. you've got some charts explaining president obama's recent surge in the polls. >> yes, because while i agree with a lot of what joe said, there are some substantive reasons why president obama should be doing better at the moment. they don't get as much attention. so let's talk a little about it. first, nobody is happy with the state of the economy at the moment. 2% growth with 8% unemployment. but as we've talked about on this show, it's the trend as much as absolute levels that determine how people feel. this is an historical chart of economic optimism going back to '09. and you can see the ups and downs of people's opinion where they started up with 42% being economically optimistic that things are going to get better. it went steadily down into the summer of '11 partly because of the weak economy, partly because of the debt ceiling crisis. since then it has been climbing back up with a few hiccups all the way back up to 42% right at the peak where it was during the obama presidenc
romney will take up this point at the debate six days from now. steve, let's inside these numbers. you've got some charts explaining president obama's recent surge in the polls. >> yes, because while i agree with a lot of what joe said, there are some substantive reasons why president obama should be doing better at the moment. they don't get as much attention. so let's talk a little about it. first, nobody is happy with the state of the economy at the moment. 2% growth with 8%...
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'04, i think that president obama is a much better debater than romney, which gives romney the advantage because if he does better than expected, which is lower expectations. >> sure. >> it helps. >> s.e., on most score cards john kerry won more in the debates than george w. bush did. he did not end up winning the election. >> debates matter but they're not everything. he is right, the debates this particular campaign season are going to be, i think, influential. people want to see these two guys, the president and mitt romney, together, talking about the issues, laying out some of their plans. mitt romney has been specific on paper but he hasn't been specificin public and speaking. j.r., i want to know, did you guys consider syria/russia on this list? >> sure. i think any sort of major national security, foreign policy event that you can't plan for or even kind of major domestic issue that you can't plan for. that can be a variety of things across the world. and here, every four years we invariably have something like that and there's no prediction what it's going to be or what the poli
'04, i think that president obama is a much better debater than romney, which gives romney the advantage because if he does better than expected, which is lower expectations. >> sure. >> it helps. >> s.e., on most score cards john kerry won more in the debates than george w. bush did. he did not end up winning the election. >> debates matter but they're not everything. he is right, the debates this particular campaign season are going to be, i think, influential. people...
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people power will beat money power, and i need your help to beat romney. >> the speaker at the debate was talking about how he created millions of jobs when he was working with the reagan administration. well, he'd be in congress two years when ronald reagan came to office. that's like saying we're all responsible for those jobs. government doesn't create jobs, it's the private sector that creates jobs. congressmen taking credit for helping create jobs is like al gore taking credit for the internet. >> welcome everybody. it is the top of the hour. >> all right. >> good morning, everyone. >> we're in south carolina, baby. >> it's the mills house in charleston, south carolina. thursday. welcome to "morning joe." what a crowd we have here. >> you know, this is an amazing crowd, mika. and as i look around and see all of these "morning joe" and "way too early" fans here, you know what goes through my mind? >> what? >> willie and i were talking about it outside. >> yeah? >> these people don't have a life. >> do you sleep? are you -- >> what's wrong with you people? >> it's very early in the
people power will beat money power, and i need your help to beat romney. >> the speaker at the debate was talking about how he created millions of jobs when he was working with the reagan administration. well, he'd be in congress two years when ronald reagan came to office. that's like saying we're all responsible for those jobs. government doesn't create jobs, it's the private sector that creates jobs. congressmen taking credit for helping create jobs is like al gore taking credit for...